The Retarded and The Sexual Predator 20.NOV.08
Stock tick- (TISG) INVESTORS, BEWARE
KSHN Slander Sheet:"Hospital: Mike Shuster, a partner with T.I. Group, the possible buyers of the Liberty Dayton Hospital said in his presentation Monday night to Liberty Co. Hospital District board members, the company sees the potential in the Liberty Dayton Community Hospital for not only a variety of services to the community but as a profit making venture as well. In his presentation Shuster said the revenue potential was about $20 million a year for the local facility."
(Liberty, Texas) The
Retarded and the Sexual Predator at KSHN are still proclaiming a false and
illegal corporate name for a group from Malaysia wanting to come in to Liberty
County and control our health care. What
is Bill Buchanan and entourage hiding by not using the company in questions
correct legal name and corporate contacts?
Investigators for Liberty Dispatch contacted the local
offices of the Internal Revenue Service in Houston to ask about Mike Shuster
and his relation to TRI-ISTHMUS GROUP, INC., they promised to contact us back
later with information. They were asked
if this newly surfaced person as represented by KSHN, by the name of Mike
Shuster was really a corporate partner of the subject company TRI-ISTHMUS
GROUP, INC.
If this company believes it will make 20 million a year off
the backs of people in Liberty County, they need their heads examined. Liberty County is not in any geographical proximity to any health care market share that large, nor will it ever be. Unless they think or have been told by Hospital
District Head, Bruce Stratton and Liberty County Judge, Phil Fitzgerald that
the taxpayers of Liberty County will pay the subject hospital 20 million a year
through Hospital District taxes. In that
case, TRI-ISTHMUS GROUP, INC. had better understand there is a fight against
the Liberty County Hospital District and they will be right in the middle of
the fight.
Citizens concerned about the outrageous taxing of Liberty County citizens for the worthless Liberty Hospital District are encouraged to email TRI-ISTHMUS GROUP and make your feelings know at: info@tig3.com
The investigation continues...
- Liberty Dispatch Reader Opinions HAWK NOV 21 • I now know why this Hospital Board has been so quiet for the last few months. The property tax payers are still paying for a Shell of a Hospital. Now they are trying to run another scam to het more money. If our elected idiots raising our property tax does'nt stop I will have to move out of Liberty County. Do these people raising our tax know that no one wants to move into a County with these high property tax and this kind of backhanded,corrupt officials in charge of the tax system. Keep us informed Ray. THANKS.Boomerang Tube NOV 21 • If they knew what Liberty was about and the payoffs they are going to have to pay, they would run from Liberty Texas, not walk away...NOV 20 • The projection of so much profit for local owners of teh hospital should signal to our elected officials that it is time for either a rollback or an elimination of the hospital district taxes.NOV 20 • These men and their behavior makes me sick ........ if I grow faint, take me to the hospital in Baytown!NOV 20 • HOW YOU LIKE THAT STORY STRATTON AND BUCHANAN, YOU GOOGLE EYED FOOLSIf phill gets ousted NOV 20 • he or Chip Fairchild may be looking at the Republican party for the position as Governor? They both qualify with Phills' High school deploma and Chips ged. To serve as Governor of Texas, a person must be at least thirty years old, a United States citizen, and a resident of Texas for at least five years preceding his or her election. These are the only legal requirements to hold the office?Mad as Heck NOV 20 • Sounds like Buchanan and Fitzgerald are trying to $crew us to the wall with a 20 million dollar a year tax bill. That will break the back of tax payers in Liberty County. I knew I shouldnt have voted for Phil Fitzgerald the democrat.
Democrats relish victory of criminal candidate 13.NOV.08
(Liberty, Texas) In a sad desperate display of petty revenge tactics, Liberty County Judge, Phil Fitzgerald (D) and commissioners for LIberty county appointed their star criminal candidate in advance of his actual time to take office. If the Democrats want to push the only winner they had in the election, a criminal, into office early, let them. All they have to be proud of is a win in the Pct. 2 Constables office of a criminal twice convicted for assault, Russell Pierce.
Liberty County Commissioners- Norman "pothole" Brown (D), Lee Groce (D), Melvin Hunt (D), Todd Fontenot (D).
Liberty County Democrats, look what you and your candidates have been reduced to... enjoy your criminal.
- Liberty Dispatch Reader Opinions NOV 20 • The corrupt Boss Hog is in the hogs pen where he belongs. Boss Hog was caught in the act with another woman. The truth surfaces that he is involved with several women in Daisetta giving them money and a good time. Yuck. He is the most corrupt of all the people of Daisetta.NOV 19 • Been hearing that Judge Fitzgerald is going to jump ship to the Republican Party. Don't even try it Sir. We don't want you. We have you right where we can see you! Getting ready for the next election.NOV 19 • Nancy, you should be ashamed of yourself for letting the Daisetta criminal element define our Party! You should resign so that we can save the few Democrats that are still in office. • vicentefoxsucks@yahoo.com NOV 19 • A big,"THANK YOU!", to Hardin ISD and the Hardin Lions Club, for hosting a Veterans' Day program. Liberty Mexican School is an example of none patriotism by recognizing some Mexican holiday instead of the brave men and women who fought for their right to put Mexico ahead of the USA and especially Texas. Someday all of these ex patriots will wish their culture was back when it is replaced by a third world culture. Even though I graduated from Liberty Mexican School, I am so happy I pay Hardin school taxes. • blackburndustin@yahoo.com NOV 18 • I have to call you out when you say that the DPS Officers that work in Daisetta are corrupt. These Officers I know personally and are the same ones that work all of Liberty County. They are fine men and I would put their integrity and professionalism up against anyone including anyone reading this. Answer: There are those who side with the criminal element in Ames and around. Not all are bad, just a few. For their sake, dont ask us to name them. Is Greg Arthur, ex-DPS or Huff several of your shining examples? I wouldn't put their integrity as high as a snakes belly. Besides the fact, to be in DPS, it is a prerequisite to be an arrogant a$$hole. Thats whats been wrong with Liberty County, DPS and those from DPS have run it too long. Corruption, if the shoe fits, wear it DPS.NOV 17 • When and where did Russell Pierce get his charges? Was in in liberty county... If so whys he even allowed to be in office??? Just asking THANKS Answer: His criminal record is included in the story about him as a link you can click on. It seems the Democrats are so desperate for candidates, they will take anyone.Mouth of the South NOV 17 • Hey Chip Daisetta is short a Police chief. You would fit right in over here. These people at Daisetta would never catch on to you over here, just look they voted in Russell for Constable. This place is ripe for the picking. Answer: Daisetta, a criminal Law Enforcement Bastian. Even the DPS officers working that area are filthy and corrupt.HAWK NOV 17 • I heard Chip is going to work for the City of Liberty. I knew there was an opening there for him. The dog pound has been needing some help for a long time now.Shirley • sforetich@consolidated.com NOV 17 • Couldnt hold it back.This sounds like Tyler County where a judge will witness a signature of a person that cant read nor write,where if you dont live in Tyler county the judges take the side of the person doing the crime and the preacher covers up for them because they may spread something nobody knows. Where a lawyer can still go to court when he is not allowed to practice and a notary can witness someones signature and say they saw a drivers lic and the person cant drive and never has been able. Do most elected people think we all live under a rock and never look at the sunshine? Answer: Appears so...NOV 16 • Gary Bunyard is just creepy.NOV 16 • I wonder why Gary Bunyard got custody of the biological son of his fifth wife Lisa Copely after the divorce?NOV 16 • i heard ole chip in walmart today crying to some women on how he has been "job hunting".....IMAGINE THAT!!! Answer: Anyone in their right mind will not hire him.NOV 16 • Ray, when Assistant County Attorney Gary Bunyard got a divorce from his fifth wife, Lisa Copely, HE got custody of HER little boy. Can you connect the dots???NOV 16 • The County Attorney's Office is in desperate need of an enema. Wes Hinch should start by getting rid of Gary Bunyard!NOV 16 • Is Assistant DA Ragis Fontenot still kicked out by his wife Toni for messing with that young girl in the County Clerk's Office?tax land for sale with trees NOV 15 • I looked up Phill Fitzgerald on Liberty Cad, He must be very rich. He must use most of his wages to pay land taxes.Dumb Criminal Stories NOV 15 • Recently I heard a great dumb criminal story. It sounds so ridicules that I can't hardly believe it...but the story goes like this. One of Daisetta's finest was convicted and sent to prison for stealing the tires off of a Judge's vehicle. That is not so bad but when you throw in the story that he left tire tracks in the wet grass that led the Police to his house and the newly installed tires that were on his car...this is downright hilarious. I say, I say, how dumb can you be!!! Must be a Democrat! Answer: To be a cop or Constable in Daisetta, you must have a criminal record or be corrupt.NOV 15 • What kind of idiot councilman would put someone like the defeated Sheriff candidate as the head of their city police. The man has so much baggage any councilman supporting him should be prepared to help carry all of those bags through the public scrutiny it will eventually bring.NOV 15 • Harold, if Pierce decides to assault someone on the job the commissioners will do the same thing they did when Beth Johnson filed sexual harassment charges against Lee Groce...they'll make a payoff and then hide the evidence in the county judge's office. Same song...second verse.HAWK NOV 15 • Hitler was a dictator, he wanted to rule everything. Sort of like Liberty County Government. Burn Ban, we will tell you when you can burn. Mandatory evacuation, we will tell you when you can come back home. Pay your County Tax or we will take your home away from you. Look around and you will see Large signs on some property in Liberty County that says LIBERTY COUNTY GOVERNMENT PROPERTY. These signs are on property where people once lived, but was unable to pay TAXS.RAY READ NOV 14 • Word is Arthur under serious consideration for Liberty PD post. The big question for some will be is it true he left his wife quite some time ago and now is living in Liberty with the girlfriend he has been flaunting for a long time? The big question for the rest of us is do we want someone with a volcanic past that could come up at any time. Can't Liberty do better?NOV 14 • Why is Lee Groce called the Little Hitler?NOV 14 • They wanted to get Juan Alfaro back into the the SO before Patterson got there, to make it harder for corrupt Alfaro to be booted out of the SO along with all the other crooks. The guy is a whack job and almost killed his girlfriend according to neighbors. Funny how being appointed to office or elected to office always goes to the weak minded peoples heads. Like the elected in Liberty County, they are above the law.To CAG NOV 14 • Good question CAG, the people in Daisetta must have had a brain fart to elect a criminal. Unless they who voted for this guy have a criminal agenda.Archer NOV 14 • WWWwwwaaaaaaaaaa my whole world is falling down.HAWK NOV 14 • These commissioners will all eventually come up for election. Instead of them running unopposed as some have done for years,I think they will have someone run against them this time. these old Democrat days are coming to an end in Liberty County. I vote for Andy McCreight for Commissioner against (little Hitler) Lee Groce.Harold NOV 13 • What will the commissioners do when Pierce decides to assault someone on the job? • italy_brat@yahoo.com NOV 13 • COME ON RAY! Dont make fun of my gay agenda, we have the right to marry too, ask Allen.Citizens for Accountable Government NOV 13 • WE have one word on our mind: "W-H-Y" Liberty County are you doing this? It is rare unless there is a political angle. We suggest you ask questions!
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- Liberty Dispatch Beck- Loser 07.NOV.08 - Liberty Dispatch DEMOCRAT RETALIATION STARTS THROUGH THE LIBERTY COUNTY COMMISSIONERS' COURT Ray Akins 07.NOV.08
(Liberty, County) The payback by the Democrats against those who voted Greg Arthur out has already begun. Appointee Juan Alfaro has held the office of Pct. 2 Constable. Mr. Alfaro has done a good job in his capacity for Pct. 2 and was appointed to be there until the New Year 2009. SEC 87.041 TEXAS CODE STATES : APPOINTEES TO REMAIN IN OFFICE TILL JANUARY 1, OF TERM YEAR. IN THIS CASE, 2009- THE LAW IS CLEAR. (Alfaro has allegedly tried to set his house on fire with his wife in it, due to a domestic altercation which Liberty County Sheriff, Greg Arthur has secreted, including Alfaro's arrest. Texas Ranger, Frank Huff full knowing the offense, turned a blind eye and joined Greg Arthur in the cover-up.)
Now comes commissioner’s court for Liberty County made up of all Democrats. Knowing how the Republicans feel in Liberty County about criminals holding office and those who did not vote for Pct. 2 candidate Russell Pierce because he has two convictions on his criminal record for assault . The commissioner’s court has decided to “appoint” Russell Pierce to the Pct. 2 Constables position before it even starts January 1, 2009.
Legally, Russell Piece is “NOT” supposed to take office until his “elected” term starts January 1, 2009. The commissioner’s court have NO legal right “appointing” Pierce until his term starts. The commissioners appointing Pierce one minute early to office is a slap in the face to everyone who did not vote for Pierce or is a Republican who believes that people with criminal records should not be in public office. The action by the commissioners and county judge, Phil Fitzgerald also goes to show they encourage and condone the appointment of CONVICTED CRIMINALS to office in Liberty County.
As of this writing, the first appointed Pct. 2 Constable Alfaro has not resigned. This action by the commissioner’s court was pure retaliatory action by the Liberty County commissioners for us having ousted Greg Arthur and his cronies. We spoke to Janice, at the Texas Board of Elections and she told us: “There is no law in the State of Texas which would merit the immediate ‘appointment’ of a candidate to an office now held by an appointee.”
The Judge and commissioners’ are-Phil Fitzgerald (D), Lee Groce (D), Norman Brown (D), Todd Fontenot (D) and Melvin Hunt (D). Liberty County needs Republican commissioners to represent them in the county so this kind of underhanded corruption does not continue. They are ignoring the law as written, breaking the law Code 87.041.
Coming this Tuesday, November 12, 2008 in commissioner’s court:
31. DISCUSSION AND TAKE ACTION REGARDING APPOINTING RUSSELL PIERCE TO SERVE AS CONSTABLE IN PCT. #2
THE CORRUPTION HAS STARTED… AGAIN.
- Liberty Dispatch Reader Opinions NOV 12 • I was left with the same reaction to Judge Taylor and Sheriff Arthur as I was Janet Harrelson four years ago: "surely they will resign. None of them resigned. Heck Judge Cain and John Archer didn't give Harrelson a chance to resign before they replaced her with a business partner's wife of the Judge Cain's. Arthur and Taylor stood for election. Politicians.....who can figure.NOV 12 • District Attorney Mike "DO NOTHING" Little and County Court at Law Judge Don "DO AS I SAY, NOT AS I DO" Taylor should be the next targets. Zipper Arthur and Taylor were heavily involved in the Janet Harrelson scandal with Little doing nothing about it. Court transcripts are clear about it.NOV 12 • i hope phil aint one of them,used to think he was a swell guy.still do phil unless you show me wrong.Burn Ban? NOV 11 • Judge Pill, while on KSHN, threatened to put the Burn Ban back into place if we did not stop burning. Hey Pill, there is a burn ban or there is not. Whats the problem. Not enough Gonads to make a decision. Also, you have no moral authority to tell me to do anything. You and the rest of the Court are shortly going to install a 2 time convicted felon to a Police Officers job, therefore I can break the law any damn time I want to. Anarchy rules, so to hell with you. The Liberty County Democrat Party knew about this guys record and you stood by and did nothing. The Democratic Party failed the people of Liberty County.NOV 11 • Perhaps Boss Cain has instructed Master Phil to put Mister Pierce in early. Whatever Boss wants we is all in favor of.Suckling NOV 10 • Looks like Phil Fitzgerald is either suckling Bill Buchanan or Buchanan is suckling Phil Fitzgerald. Looks like Phil let his office go to his head.Moss Hill NOV 10 • No more debri trucks I wonder what Phills' next marking will be on his trucks or will they go back to the Hardrock construction? Answer: Oh yeah??? Please expound...NOV 10 • Shut up Rip Payne? Hardly...every politician that he named needs to be run out of town on a rail!Hawkish NOV 10 • Did I hear what I thought I heard from the County Judge on the radio today. Did he outline the plan to install Russel Pearce after Wednesday meeting and that the Alfaro guy would go back to the sheriffs department. I thought this stuff was going to be discussed at a public meeting and decided after the discussion. I think we just saw a glimpse of what goes on in this County. The back door politics at its best. Is'nt this a violation of the Open Meetings Act. I thought decisions like this were to be made out in front of everybody. Answer: Looks like Phil wants a fight...Hasthefatmansung ? NOV 10 • Will Chap Cain be on some kind of steering committee to help choose the new police chief? If Boss Cain has a problem with the new Sheriff, will he pull a midnight KSHN election result pineapple turnover? And since this "judge" has expressed his hatred for Republicans, will the 70.5% of the voters from Liberty County who voted Republican be assigned to another court if they are involved in any trials?NOV 10 • Can someone please shut this Rip Payne up. He has been all over the place through the year. I am guessing he is a do-nothing-say-anything type of guy. • vicentefoxsucks@yahoo.com NOV 10 • There is a man from the Liberty area anticipating running for Governor of Texas. He says he will not run as a Republican or a Democrat account both parties have shone they refuse to do as the people request. Both parties refuse to close the southern border. They refuse to deport illegals. He says President Bush has violated his oath of office by not closing the border and deporting illegals. The President is not protecting the American citizens and also is allowing the invasion of America by a foreign country. He says that Article 1, section 10, of the Constitution gives the states right to fight a war with a militia. He said he will push to form a State militia to close the border and deport all illegals from Texas. Texas does not have to follow the other states into hell. He also says the war on drugs is a farce and he will end drugs in Texas by legislation to eliminate drug dealers from society. He also states child rapist will be eliminated. They will not be allowed to ruin a childs life and the family of the child. If they are given a second chance they will kill a child the next time. He believes Texans are fed up with all of the nonsense being allowed to continue. He want to bring Texas back to it's greatness. With the backing of real Texans this can be done. His campaign will be a grassroots effort, but he knows the people of Texas will back him for his get tough style.NOV 10 • Did I miss something? What does the comment "Thanks Phil for giving up the Fairchilds and Greg" mean???NOV 10 • Thanks Phil for giving up the Fairchilds and Gregripper • rippayne2001@yahoo.com NOV 09 • If we all work together maybe we can get some good honest canidates to run against, Cain, Fitzgerald, Fontenot, Hunt and Lee Groce. But the Republicans have to get organized. We need to have precinct chairs in each precinct and we need to start doing something now. We cant afford to wait until election time.NOV 09 • Ray, the opinion needs to let me make more than one choice! Answer: hahaha... rofl.As regards Phil Fitzgerald NOV 09 • I have always liked Phil Fitzgerald in a 'hi how you doing' sort of way. he makes the rounds and shakes hands, trades pleasantries and smiles in your face. Since Phil has been elected, its starting to look like wherever there has been an underhanded deal in the county and behind the scenes with Greg Arthur of Chip Fairchild, Phil Fitzgerald has always been there in the background, like the wizard of oz, pulling the big levers and pushing the buttons. I am beginning to believe that Phil Fitzgerald is another Greg Arthur and he is screwing all of us while he smiles in our face. Now I think I don't trust him and believe he will try to restructure the corrupt network Greg Arthur had in effect in this county. He will make it evolve away from the new Republican office holders and may try to build its strength in the small jurisdictions like Pct. Pierce and Pct. Wheeler Constables to use them as his enforcers- post Greg and Chip. I don not like Phil Fitzgerald and find it my duty to make sure he is not re-elected. Please join me in this battle.NOV 09 • I heavily rely on our local justice system to decide how I believe transitions should be handled after elections. Judge Chap Cain is my guru. An example of his genius over us mere voters is when he had KSHN radio and a hand full of others over to his house and swore in a replacement for newly elected Janet Harrelson. Who would have guessed you could take a candidate who was elected just a few weeks earlier and just announce she is no longer an elected official and put one of your business partners in tehir place. And who could have been more efficient than this Judge when he just had Bill Buchanan come over and be present for the midnight meeting. We elect Judge Cain because he is brilliant like that. Most of us would never think to do something like that because we could not figure how that action fits in our democarcy, but Judge Cain knows how it fits. Who knows, have Cain's connection within the criminal community have helped in locating and importing Brother Pierce. Is there some unique quality Pierce has that will help Cain form Liberty County into making it all it can be? You see we need to think outside of the box when trying to figure how this brilliant Judge thinks. Or should we just simply sit back and watch a genius at work. "Yes, we can"? Or should we try to get someone who sits on that bench that does things we might all understand? Answer: Wow, genius at work, never thought of him that way and the Pierce angle, yeah this is all truly out of the box. Yep, mix a District Judge and Bill Buchanan's corruption in the box, you can 'make new law' (liberty county law) and change history.HAWK NOV 09 • I now know why the commissioners are appointing Russell Pierce before he is supposed to take office. Russell is going to hire the Police Cheif of Daisetta as his Deputy constable. Juan Alfaro better start looking for another job because he is through as Constable via Daisetta Cartel.NOV 09 • Wes Hinch, please get rid of Gary Bunyard. He looks like a creepy, balding child molester. He is a moron.NOV 08 • The Chambers and Hinch race was a toss up for me. But the Archer/Obama/Bush - bashing helped me make up my mind to check the Republican box. The first time I have ever done that. But I will probably vote straight Republican from here forward.NOV 08 • Tommy Chambers is the only decent one up at the viper pit called the Liberty County Courthouse. Oh Delia and Annette are hard workers and good people too.Slim NOV 08 • M.Hunt contracted clean up before storm.I read this contractor used to visit Wal Mart parking lot School busses fly on small county rds on a cell phone.C.A.D.knowingly lets companys off on personal property tax.County Com.know this too.I forgot they are doing it too.ANDY McCREIGHT-NEW STRATEGY NOV 08 • I would like to thank all of the 560 people who voted for me. I know that I can be a lightning rod and to still have that much support means a lot to me and my family. We have employed the strategy of give and don’t expect anything back for many years and it really helps to have that attitude when understanding how the psychology of people comes into play. But now I think that I will employ a new strategy as far as the political world is concerned. It will be called the “IF YOU CAN’T BEAT’EM JOIN’EM STRATEGY”. I plan on updating my Resume` to include a Felony and Two Misdemeanors or perhaps just Two Felonies. I am also going to move out of the Precinct and claim that I still live there. Then, when it comes time to fill out my Candidate Application Form I am going to check NO on the question that asks if I have ever been convicted of a Felony. This has got to work. Precedence has already been set. Anyway, Lonnie it’s been a hoot! See everybody next election. NOV 08 • If those who elect Mr. Allison would get up one morning and follow him to work they will see him leave the county and go to his job. And it ain't constable! Why do we elect someone who devotes 50 hours of his life a week to another job? Add some family time in there and a little sleep and how good of a job can the man be doing?HAWK NOV 08 • This commisioners court needs to discuss and take action on un-appointing Juan Alfaro before they appoint Russell Pierce or PCT# 2 will have two Constables. This is the craziest thing I have heard of. Why would these commissioners waste time with this when Pierce will take over as Constable January 1 st. 2009. Just some more sore losers.dirtypenny • daytombottom47@yahoo.com NOV 07 • The appointment by the Commissioners is just one more reason why the office of Constable should be eliminated. We only have one Constable who works at his job and that is Wheeler. Thhe rest all act like they are on a pension. Look at precinct one, Allison doesnt do anything and yet Fontenot got him a paid deputy. What a joke. Lets get a petition going to get the option of eliminating the constables office on the next election. Answer: Allison Constable=Corruption Money. This is the job and oversight of the county Judge to make sure there is no waste like this occurring which in turn can be considered corruption.To Phil Fitzgerald: NOV 07 • Phil, I am coming after your job and I will win ole buddy. You have been a worthless do nothing since you have been elected. You even sold Liberty Counties hay to other counties after the storm. After the storm Ike, you were gouging people for gas and supplies. Your going to get yours buddy!NOV 07 • Have you met Mr. Pierce? I think it is premature to judge someone before you meet them. I will say however that after you meet him you may be even more inclined to wonder why he was elected. Answer: Yes, I have met him and yes, wonder how he could have been elected.NOV 07 • Is peirce a licensed peace officer? What was he convicted of and how long ago was it. He has to be able to get his TCLEOSE license within a year and a conviction above a class C misdemeanor would keep him from carrying a firearm or getting licensed for atleast 5 years.NOV 07 • Excuse me. I have read the paper, i-dineout, and Liberty Dispatch and I don't fall in any of your categories. I voted for the first time since I moved to Liberty County in 1997. I voted for one reason and one reason only and that was because the Sheriff does not send anyone to patrol the north part of this county. I marked a little box up at the top that said Republican and sent our Sheriff the message I wanted him to get. I can tell you everyone in my husband's hunting club and their wives did the same thing. If this new man Patterson doesn't cover our part of the county I will go down and vote straight Democratic in four years. Do your job.NOV 07 • Watch yourself Ray. Zipper and his little shadow Chip have a few more weeks in uniform. Answer: According to Greg, its Obamas fault he lost, not me. -grin- Ray